Conway The Machine has revealed that therapy combined with embracing positivity and gratitude have aided him in making some of his best music, yet.

During a recent conversation with Zane Lowe in-studio on Apple Music — to discuss his latest album WON’T HE DO IT — the rapper revealed how his latest project will show a different side of himself — with positivity at the forefront.

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“I feel like I just needed to show a different side of me, man. Man, my life has been really great, if I really look at it and just really count my blessings and just be thankful more and grateful of what I have accomplished and what I do have instead of tripping off negative dumb stuff,” he began. “You know what I mean? So that’s how I ended up here with Won’t He Do It. It’s just like, man, I feel good, man. You know what I’m saying?”

Of his journey to achieving a sunny outlook, the “Scatter Brain” rhymer revealed, “I did some therapy. You know what I’m saying? I did some therapy.”

“Like I said, I kind of just isolated myself and just shut it off for a minute. Yeah. You know what I’m saying? It’s like a computer. You know what I’m saying? Sometimes you got to turn it off and let it rest for a few minutes and turn it back on and reboot it. You know what I’m saying?”

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“Because growing up in a hood and stuff, and particularly with young men and just in the communities and stuff, we look at wanting to get therapy or stuff like that, it’s like a, I don’t know, a slight, I guess or, we look at it like it’s a weakness or something,” he continued, highlighting how seeking mental health care is stigmatized within many black communities.

“But I realized quick that it really wasn’t. It was actually very helpful. You know what I’m saying? And got me to this point to where I’m back making music, I think some of my best music. You know what I mean?”

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Elsewhere in the interview, the New York native showed love to Jay-Z , explaining he’s a “real dude” — echoing comments he shared early this month in which he explained his friendship with the rapper-record executive is different.

“He show love, you know what I’m saying? And real dudes do real things, man. You know what I’m saying? I met a lot of people in the industry, you know what I’m saying? And I’ll just say, everybody ain’t solid, and that’s fine. I’m in here to just make music, great music. I didn’t get into this to really make friends or none of that. You know what I’m saying? Of course it don’t help you as an artist to make enemies, but I’m just focused on the music part,” he told Lowe.

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“Yeah, it’s nothing fake. So if I shake it, if I extend my hand and shake your hand, then it’s real. It’s genuine. You know what I’m saying? I’m not looking to take advantage or get nothing from nobody,” he continued.

“I got here without asking for nothing, for nobody, no favors, no handouts. So I keep it like that. I got here just being a genuine good dude. I show love and respect, and I get that back for some reason, man, when I meet people.”